Join this fascinating conversation between Rens and Mark! Rens always knew he wanted his own company but also knew he needed specific skills to make it a reality.  We document the steps he took to accomplish this but then transitioned our conversation into how leaders work on their business and the importance of doing the work that doesn't get revisited enough, mission, vision, values!  Fascinating listen for any business leader that will make you inspired to do more work on your business today!


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